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  • Ripken, Gwynn get 2007 Hall call, McGwire does not


    Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken head up the 2007 Hall of Fame class.

    When they retired from baseball after the 2001 season, it appeared that Mark McGwire, Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. would enter the Hall of Fame together. Then came the dark cloud of steroids.

    It didn't affect Gwynn's and Ripken's ability to become first-ballot Hall of Famers, as the two players were officially elected Tuesday to the Hall of Fame.

    Ripken was picked by 537 voters, appearing on 98.5 percent of ballots, falling just short of the record percentage of 98.84 set by Tom Seaver when he was selected on 425 of 430 ballots in 1992. Gwynn was just behind with 532 votes, 97.6 percent.

    "Two of the highest voting percentages in history," said Dale Petroskey, the Baseball Hall of Fame president who made the announcement.

    McGwire, however, came up well short in the balloting, named on just 23.5 percent of the record 545 votes cast.

    McGwire finished with 583 home runs, seventh on the career list, and hit 70 homers in 1998 to set the season record, a mark Barry Bonds broke three years later.

    But many voters said they won't select McGwire for baseball's highest honor until he answers questions about steroids use. McGwire's refusal to address his past during a 2005 congressional hearing damaged his reputation among many of the 10-year members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America who cast ballots.

    "I think I would vote for him," Gwynn said. "I think I would vote for a lot of those guys who are considered to have done it."

    Gwynn and Ripken weren't the first unanimous picks. Paul Ladewski of the Daily Southtown in suburban Chicago wrote in a column Monday that he submitted a blank ballot because of doubts he had over performance-enhancing drugs in baseball.

    "At this point, I don't have nearly enough information to make a value judgment of this magnitude. In particular, that concerns any player in the Steroids Era, which I consider to be the 1993-2004 period, give or a take a season," Ladewski wrote.

    "This isn't to suggest that Gwynn or Ripken or the majority of the other eligible candidates padded his statistics with performance-enhancers and cheated the game, their predecessors and the fans in the process. ... But tell me, except for the players themselves, who can say what they put into their bodies over the years with any degree of certainty?"

    Tom Seaver holds the record percentage at 98.84, set when he was selected on 425 of 430 ballots in 1992. Paul Hagen of the Philadelphia Daily News was among three writers who submitted blank ballots that year, joined by Bob Hertzel of The Pittsburgh Press and freelance writer Bob Hunter. Retired writers Deane McGowen and Bud Tucker did not vote for Seaver.

    "That was the first year that baseball intervened with Pete Rose and kept his name off the ballot," Hagen said Monday. "I just felt like that was a way of protesting. It had nothing to do with Tom Seaver."

    Ty Cobb was left off four ballots, Nolan Ryan wasn't on six, Hank Aaron on nine, Babe Ruth on 11 and Willie Mays on 23. Joe DiMaggio needed to appear on the ballot three times to get in, receiving 44 percent and 69 percent in his first two tries.

    "What makes Gwynn and Ripken so special that they deserve to be unanimous selections?" Ladewski wrote. "Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Honus Wagner didn't receive such Hall passes. Neither did Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams. In fact, nobody has in the history of the game. Based on the standards set by the Hall of Fame voters decades ago, is there a neutral observer out there who can honestly say Gwynn and Ripken should be afforded an unprecedented honor?"

    Reliever Bruce Sutter made it last year on the 13th try, when Jim Rice fell 53 votes short and Goose Gossage was 54 shy. Rice is on the ballot for the 13th time this year, and he may have a better chance at gaining election next year, when Tim Raines and David Justice are the top first-time eligibles. Rickey Henderson goes on the 2009 ballot.

    Gwynn and Ripken are baseball dinosaurs who spent their entire major league careers with one team.

    In a 20-year career with the San Diego Padres that began in 1982, Gwynn won eight NL batting titles to tie Honus Wagner's NL record and was a member of 15 All-Star teams. He finished with a .338 career average and won five Gold Gloves as an outfielder.

    Ripken played in 2,632 consecutive games, breaking Lou Gehrig's ironman record of 2,130. Ripken spent 21 seasons with the Baltimore Orioles, hitting .276 with 431 home runs. A 19-time All-Star, he won the AL Rookie of the Year award in 1982, the AL MVP award in 1983 and 1991 and was a two-time Gold Glove shortstop.

    Jose Canseco also is on the ballot for the first time. Canseco said he used steroids along with McGwire when they were teammates. Two-time Cy Young Award winner Bret Saberhagen, former NL MVP Ken Caminiti and Harold Baines also are on the ballot for the first time.

    A player remains on the ballot for up to 15 elections as long as he gets 5 percent of the votes every year.

    The players elected will be inducted during ceremonies held July 29 at the Hall in Cooperstown, N.Y., along with anyone elected from the Veterans Committee vote, which will be announced Feb. 27.

    Source: SI.com

  • #2
    I know the tradition involved but those who didn't vote for Gwynn and Ripken should be removed from the voting pool. Some of those assholes won't vote for Clemens, either.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ryan McBain
      How the Hell did Ripken get more votes than Gwynn?? And who are the morons that didn't vote for him?
      Paul Ladewski is one of them. He came off like a pompous hollier-than-thou prick on ESPN earlier today.

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      • #4
        McBain, no one will ever be an unanimous HOF selection because you have voters like that pig fucker from Chicago who sent in a blank ballot because anyone who played the majority of their years between 1993-2004 could have used roids.

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        • #5
          McGwire is a bum. No hall for you!!

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          • #6
            So, a career .276 hitter who broke .300 four times in 21 years gets the second highest percentage of hall of fame votes?

            Ripken cost his team victories. He refused to sit down, so towards the end of the streak, they had a shortstop who was tired and hurt. He was a defensive liability. For that sort of behavior, I would vote against him (if I had a vote). He sacrificed his team in favor of his own personal records.

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            • #7

              Im in your house banging your wife.

              Can't take away your HOF induction though! Congrats Cal!

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              • #8
                Mark McGwire should be in the Hall Of Fame

                Mark McGwire should be in the Hall Of Fame.
                1. 12 time all-star.
                2. Every guy with 12 all star appearances is in the HOF
                3. 7th most HRS of all time
                4. Highest home run per 100 at bats ratio in the game
                5. 9th highest slugging percentage
                6. Reggie Jackson never slugged .618. McGwire did it his first year as a “skinny” guy.

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                • #9
                  Until my dying day, I will be of the opinion that, if Tony Gwynn had kept his weight in check, his knees wouldn't have gone bad and he could have racked up 4,000 career hits.

                  Take away Ripken's streak and he's just another Alan Trammell.

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